Racism against whites

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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Gavin » 18 May 2013, 10:16

I haven't watched all of the video (but noticed the presenter looked almost exactly like John McEnroe!). I stared watching from 9'30 and heard such drivel coming out of the mouths of the teenagers that could barely stomach it. For example that individuals now should pay for things other individuals did in the past, and the reason why black people cannot achieve today is because white people achieved so much in the past.

The girl in question, "Hannah", had the usual cocksure attitude combined with zero life experience that one often sees now. She also spoke in that affected uptalk/HRT drawl which I have never heard voicing anything but platitudes and falsehoods. She also contradicted herself by apparently arguing for affirmative action but against these "legacy admissions" (I would argue against both, of course).

I was quite shocked around 22'00 when we saw pro-racial and ethnic diversity quotes from Harvard since in these they were plainly being "racist" (suggesting that races are not all the same!). If the black person can "bring something" that the white person can't (as "Hannah" also said) what exactly is that thing supposed to be? Basketball? Rap? What great contribution that white society was previously lacking? We are not told.

I watched up to 26 mins, where that section ends. Some of the teenagers did argue back to this "Hannah" so their brains had not been completely washed yet, though those of the Harvard admissions people evidently have been. Give it time, I suppose - sad to see. At least - to some degree - the professor did seem to encourage the questioning of ideas (even multiculti socialist ones) eventually, so that's good.

The trouble with these kinds of talks at a place like Harvard is though, I think, that they can really only take place within the confines of PC. We on this site are even limited a little by this as we don't want to be shut down. If they got someone like Jared Taylor in then he would start saying "unsayable" things. I'm not even sure I agree with him on everything but that is the other side of the argument. They ban it just because it might be true, so ultimately talks like this are not even a proper debate at all, just fluffing around in my view.

As for the supposed merits of diversity (white people are "disadvantaged without it" said Hannah) they'd better put this on the Harvard reading list:

by Ed West

Make sure some Fjordman is on there too. I'm afraid "it's hate" or silly words like "racist" just won't cut it any more. If they want any credibility they need to actually take on the arguments presented, and that is going to be a lot more difficult.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Nathan » 18 May 2013, 10:27

Put some Thomas Sowell in there too - let's see them call him racist!

Can you cite one speck of hard evidence of the benefits of "diversity" that we have heard gushed about for years? Evidence of its harm can be seen — written in blood — from Iraq to India, from Serbia to Sudan, from Fiji to the Philippines. It is scary how easily so many people can be brainwashed by sheer repetition of a word.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Andreas » 20 May 2013, 17:35

The Harvard students should also read Frank Ellis' critique of multiculturalism in this essay

http://www.traditionalbritain.org/conte ... och-powell

as well as anything by George Orwell on the totalitarian manipulation of language.

It's interesting that in the rest of this course, the professor defines and discusses terms and their implications very carefully (utilitarianism, libertarianism, egalitarianism, etc.). But in this lecture, there is no discussion of what "diversity" really means, or any question whatsoever about why diversity should be a good in itself.

In a later lecture, the professor recalls that Harvard, in the past, discriminated against Jewish students in its admissions, and he implies that there is a parallel between this past discrimination and the situation of black students today. What he neglects to say (and no one in the audience does) is that once the restrictions were lifted, Jewish students were admitted and succeeded (or failed) on their own merits. I don't believe there was ever a special affirmative action policy for them. The same can be said for Asian American students (mostly with an East Asian background). As a group, they do well in school in America and don't seem to need special preferences. These facts are fairly obvious to anyone who really looks at the situation, but no one wants to talk about them.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Elliott » 17 Jun 2013, 03:11

An Asian gentleman is racist against whites, blacks, Chinese, and anyone else who isn't Asian, but probably most against whites.

The judge lets him off.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Gavin » 27 Jul 2013, 10:45

This is kind of racism against whites but perhaps more cultural but anyway I wanted to reiterate how the left liberals always make out that the indigenous Brit is racist, etc., etc., and they never fault Islam, yet a British man would not even dare to even ask to date a Muslim girl. Even presuming he found her attractive and had something in common with her, it is fully known by both sides to be completely off the table. Why? Because the Muslim males would go berserk, probably beat the white man to a pulp and might even kill the girl. There have been numerous instances of this in the UK. But it is so known that it wouldn't even happen.

Do you hear politicians, multiculturalists and feminists standing up against this publicly? Nope, not a whisper. Any refusal to integrate, any "intolerance" or racism, in their minds, must be coming exclusively from the indigenous population - because the others are darker skinned. Thus the liberals in fact reveal their own racism.

I also find it rather patronising the way white liberals want to "help" Africans in their own countries. As if they cannot help themselves. How dare they? What makes them think the Africans will really respect them for this? I think the liberals sometimes actually have a rather condescending view of the Africans, and they probably even get a sense of superiority from "helping" them. Really the problems there are nothing to do with the liberals, and arguably they would be better off leaving these people to either sort themselves out, or not.

Finally, back to my original point, while a white guy would not even consider it possible to date a Muslim girl, Pakistani Muslims of northern England raped numerous white girls with impunity. Still, incredibly, not a whisper from the MSM.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Elliott » 01 Aug 2013, 19:32

Sean Thomas writes about the absence on Wikipedia of articles about Charlene Downes and Gavin Hopley, two white victims of murder by non-whites. It is hard not to see a melodious consistency in the fact that comments have been disallowed in an article about white victimisation being brushed under the carpet.

It is a good article (but I think Thomas would do well to read Dalrymple's takedown of the Stephen Lawrence inquiry and the Macpherson Report) but perhaps the most interesting parts are the quotes from quisling Wikipedia editors justifying their deletion of articles on Charlene Downes et al.

The very fact that it has been ignored by the national media shows it isn't suitable for inclusion [in Wikipedia].


Groupthink, anyone?
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Gavin » 01 Aug 2013, 21:54

I find the Wikipedia generally good and some articles are surprisingly well written considering the deterioration of language these days, but these are the types of articles on which it cannot be trusted.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Caleb » 02 Aug 2013, 08:04

Really? The national media? There are over 4.24 million articles in English as of Wikipedia's front page today. They're saying that all of those 4.24 million topics have been discussed in the national media? There's some pretty obscure stuff on Wikipedia. As an example, this is today's featured article:

The Duino Elegies are a collection of ten poems written by Rainer Maria Rilke (1875–1926), a Bohemian-Austrian poet. The elegies are intensely religious, mystical poems that employ a rich symbolism of angels and salvation weighing beauty and existential suffering while addressing issues such as the limits of the human condition, loneliness, love and death. Rilke began writing the elegies in 1912 while a guest of Princess Marie von Thurn und Taxis (1855–1934) at Duino Castle near Trieste, and they were dedicated to her upon publication.


How do I know that those weren't discussed in the English speaking media at the time (let alone now, of course)? Because they weren't first translated into English until eight years after originally published in German.

Wiki-clowns.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Andreas » 30 Aug 2013, 18:23

Two instances of this have come to my attention in the last 24 hours, not aggressive, but irritating.

First, a discussion on television about the 50th anniversary of the 1963 march on Washington, D.C. by Martin Luther King. One of the comments:

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/nation/j ... 08-29.html

I think, in the ensuing years, our democracy has been transformed, but there's been stubborn persistences of the old Jim Crow. Sometimes, people call it the new Jim Crow, when we think about mass incarceration, unemployment, but also just the fact that 40 percent of whites don't have any friends who are outside of their own race. So, in some ways, we're still as segregated as we were 50 years ago, and I think that King would be very concerned about that.


Note that he doesn't say anything about the percentage of blacks who don't have any friends outside their race. It very well may be a higher percentage. His statement is intellectually dishonest, and obviously meant to imply that only whites are averse to friendship with people of other races.

The second item is from an email listserv:

Greetings Beloved Community,

I hope all is very well with each of you. I am again offering my introductory 3-hour Healing Whiteness Workshop for White Allies, and would very much appreciate it if you would forward this to your networks and white allies.

It takes place a week from tomorrow on Friday, September 6th, at PlayGround, 3286 Adeline St. #8, Berkeley. I am also developing a fuller version of this - an 8-week workshop which I plan on beginning in January. I will also be facilitating day-long workshops and will email you when these are happening.


This is the woman who is offering her services to heal whiteness:

http://helenklonaris.com/

The racism of this idea is so obvious it doesn't need commentary. Judging by the picture Ms. Klonaris has posted of herself, I would guess that she has both black and white ancestry, and I'm tempted to guess that either she has a personal psychological drama that accounts for her thinking that whiteness needs to be healed, or she is simply a charlatan who wants to make money from white liberal guilt.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Caleb » 31 Aug 2013, 00:01

I don't think she necessarily has any black ancestry. Her features don't quite look that way to me. She looks Mediterranean. Both her names are also Greek. Regardless, she (and the other clown you mentioned) has stupid and dangerous ideas.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Elliott » 31 Aug 2013, 05:06

Her website says she's from the Bahamas.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Caleb » 01 Sep 2013, 01:25

Could be then, though she still doesn't look black to me (maybe she has a small amount, like 1/8). Those are Greek names and the Greeks have, traditionally, been relatively reluctant to inter-marry, even with other Europeans.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Gavin » 03 Sep 2013, 18:08

One topic the PC Brigade might like to investigate would be the disproportionate amount of black people in British football and athletic sports. Why is this allowed? Is there something that we are not providing to white youngsters to get them interested enough in these things? Are they discriminated against?

Well, one French football coach was rumoured to be proposing the introduction of quotas, you know, as is done for ethnic minorities and women, to address this problem. The French sports minister replied that if such a scheme had even been discussed, then sanctions would be enforced including the removal of public funding (don't ask me why football is "publicly funded" in the first place). How's that for equality?

There are not many white people in rap either, quite frankly. Only Eminem has become really established. Could this again be a case of discrimination? And as for the number of white people employed - or rather not employed - in the massive Indian restaurant industry of the UK, well, I've written of that before. I'm yet to hear of an inquiry into racism or nepotism being launched, though.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Gavin » 11 Oct 2013, 01:26

We still hear about the singular Stephen Lawrence case at every opportunity here in the UK, but we certainly never hear about any of these cases.
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Re: Racism against whites

Postby Gavin » 11 Oct 2013, 17:36

Further to the above, I just found out about this terrible case from Atlas Shrugs:


As far as I recall, this story was not reported at all by the BBC, and when you contrast the Daily Mail article and the Atlas Shrugs article, it is striking how selective the Mail one is: they deliberately omit certain quotations from the parents which they would have eagerly included, had the incident been the other way around.
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