Islam in the UK

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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Rigsby » 07 Aug 2014, 16:19

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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Gavin » 07 Aug 2014, 16:53

I think I've got an appropriate response to that:

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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Rigsby » 07 Aug 2014, 17:25

Yeh, me too Gavin, really gets GG's quiet dignity and gravity as a statesman across:)
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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby James W » 07 Aug 2014, 18:13

Thanks very much for your welcome, Elliott. I'm a long-time lurker on this site, but I have finally felt compelled to get involved. It truly is an oasis of sanity in here!

Where are things heading? That’s a very good question. There was a time when I might have dismissed talk of conflict, but I fear now such an eventuality might be inevitable in the long term. Time has not brought the Islamic community closer to the mainstream within this country, and as its numbers grow I can only see a future in which it becomes ever more detached. Demographic trends as they are, it will likely not be too long before their vote gains the power to influence elections. We can surely expect that there will be many more opportunistic political types all too willing to compete with Mr Galloway for their affections.

The key variable will be the response of the remainder of the population. How much more tolerance is really left? Will any politician actually have the courage to speak out and heed our concerns? Are there enough people with the stomach to confront the threat? If the answer to the final two questions is “no”, then I cannot see an alternative to our Islamisation. There is so much to discuss and speculate upon. Depressing as it is to say this, I believe that we might well have to wait until the next terror incident occurs before we can gauge just how far public patience has been tested. What is certain, however, is that something will have to give eventually. The contrast between the outlook of the Islamic world and that of the liberal, secular, democratic West is simply too great for us to coexist together in a pluralistic society.
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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Gavin » 07 Aug 2014, 18:35

Excellent post if I may say so, James, and welcome from me too. You will find many threads on the forum where we consider how things might unfold from here.

May I again invite any other "lurkers" to contribute. I myself would not usually contribute to a site - especially one dealing with controversial topics - however the phrase does come to mind that it "better to live as a lion for a day than a sheep all your life" - and this is only considering matters on the Internet, not taking physical action of the kind that, for example, Britain First (possibly a new EDL?) urge. This is simply reflecting on matters and reasoning them though. As a people who are fast losing their culture and their territory against their will (indeed being obliged to fund this), we at the very least have a right to do that. Further, we must not lose sight of that fact that it is we who are defending civilisation, and that's where Burke's famous quotation comes to mind, too.

You can register any e-mail address, which does provide a degree of anonymity, though ultimately anyone is identifiable online since traffic goes through so many networks, and each keeps logs. Protest while you can, therefore, before a National Socialist government arrives which bans any resistance to what is happening!
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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby James W » 07 Aug 2014, 23:01

Thank you, Gavin. I look forward to contributing further in the future. It's certainly nice to be able to get things off your chest!

As for George Galloway, nothing that he says is able to surprise me anymore. I know somebody who was attempting to marshall their friends into observing an Israeli goods boycott towards the end of last week. I imagine that it will last for about as long as it takes for the current conflict in Gaza to vanish from our TV screens.
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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Elliott » 08 Aug 2014, 00:34

Rigsby wrote:Yeh, me too Gavin, really gets GG's quiet dignity and gravity as a statesman across:)

Surely you mean his quiet dignity, his gravity, and his indefatigability?
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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Paul » 08 Aug 2014, 00:35

Surely GG is some kind of traitor? Maybe not strictly legally, but surely morally. He's trying to foment rebellion or riot or even low-level war within the confines of and among subjects of the realm.

I saw a short video earlier on FB but I don't have the IT skills to extract it, if indeed that can be done. It's not a You Tube upload. It was of the area of Small Heath in Birmingham, a sizeable 'green belt' (?) area near the city. I think the film has been taken very recently.

It depicts a call to prayer! There are literally hundreds, and more likely thousands of Muslims, covering a huge area of open country, complete with Imam and the whole Muslim prayer ritual. There looks like as many people as might considerably fill a football stadium. The comments underneath are .......interesting.
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Re: Islam in the UK

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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Charlie » 15 Aug 2014, 23:02

Someone should really ask George Galloway the following: "Are you Shia or Sunni?"

I wonder how he'd try to worm his way out of that one.
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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Elliott » 02 Sep 2014, 01:09

She's 20 and "of Pakistani heritage", she was born and grew up in Scotland, her father is a successful businessman, she was privately-educated, she had a crush on Zac Efron and enjoyed Coldplay... and now she's joined ISIS.

It's what I've been saying all along. The first generation of immigrants might integrate, but their children and grandchildren are still a complete liability. Whether poor or privileged, they will be tempted by the mystique of what their families left behind in the old country, and as a result some of them will turn against everything that you give them, from pop groups and sexual license to private education.

Michael Adebolajo was telling the truth. We will never be safe while these people are in our countries. It's tragic, but I think it's the only honest conclusion.
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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Elliott » 06 Sep 2014, 12:12

Surely it has come to something when a person gets beheaded in Britain and it isn't even shocking any more. As most people will know by now, a little old lady was beheaded by a Muslim in London two days ago. (It is unclear whether the man, Nicholas Salvador, was a convert to Islam or raised in the religion.) It struck me that this is the second Islamist beheading we have seen in less than three days; the Steven Sotloff video was released on the 2nd, this happened on the 4th. It is also the second Islamist beheading within London in less than 16 months; Lee Rigby was killed in May 2013, Palmira Silva in September 2014.

It has almost become normal to read that another person has been killed in this most gruesome, awful way, and always by a Muslim.

It seems that Ms. Silva, and her daughter, were aware of the danger of living in a multicultural area:

Her daughter, Celestina, said the area in which her mother lived after moving from Italy with her husband in the 1950s had changed dramatically.

"She knew the area was changing but she was determined to stay. It seems such a dreadful, senseless waste."
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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Gavin » 12 Sep 2014, 10:32

It has indeed come to something surely, but we seem to be nation somewhat paralysed and sleepwalking towards our fate.

I don’t think anyone will do anything until we really do come to demographic tipping point as a nation, then attitudes might change and become more defensive, with PC finally being defeated. Until then I think things will continue with nothing much happening.

What do we expect a revolution would look like? People taking to the streets a burning down mosques? An even bigger move towards UKIP, or further to the right.

When soldiers can be beheaded in broad daylight and 1,400 (probably more like 10,000, nationwide) girls can be tortured and raped by immigrants, as well as halal being served by default across the nation, I ask again:

What would be the reaction if a Muslim managed to to do the unthinkable to the Queen? How would the BBC respond, and how would the British population respond?

Also what would be the reaction if an Islamic party gained enough traction democratically in the UK to threaten government, or a Muslim elected prime minister of the United Kingdom. Some Labour politicians eagerly look forward to this day, whereas our ancestors would have never thought it possible.

It’s interesting to consider these “hypotheticals".

On one other note, it is often mentioned how there are so few Muslims in the British Army (more are fighting in jihad against the West). I actually think it is a very good thing there are not more in the army, since as such it is not compromised. The Islamic ideology is not one that has a place in any of our authorities, certainly not in our army, in my opinion.
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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Rigsby » 13 Sep 2014, 20:04

"The letter's authors also call for the prime minister to reassess his own language."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/s ... id-cameron

Muslims now feel bold enough to tell the prime minister of this country how he should address them en masse.

I've no time for Cameron - he is a waste of space - but the audacity of of this group of people, despised by the indigenous majority of our country, telling the prime minister of our country how he should address them is beyond parody.

I'm not a huge fan of either, but I doubt Thatcher or Churchill would have tolerated that.
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Re: Islam in the UK

Postby Charlie » 15 Sep 2014, 11:34

That’s unbelievable stuff, Rigsby.

Meanwhile, as politicians worldwide refuse to say the obvious, Dr Mark Durie spells out - at length - how theological illiteracy, universalism, relativism and cognitive dissonance have led to the situation in which we find ourselves today.

PS: I could have posted this on another thread about Islam, but given what has been going on in the UK of late, this wise Australian man's thoughts seem particularly pertinent in the face of so much dhimmitude and political correctness.
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