The 2015 UK General Election

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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Gavin » 04 May 2013, 20:38

Something positive occurred to me today: people generally probably have a greater motivation to change the status quo than maintain it, and immigrants may not be inclined to co-ordinate themselves as well as disgruntled natives to actually vote at elections.

Obviously many do, and there was suspicion of widespread postal fraud among communities who had imported multiple relations and so on. However, it still seems to me that many who do not speak English as a first language may not be quite as organised when it comes to voting. They might even get it wrong and fail to put their vote in the Labour box.

Also, while they are trying to defend their place in our country, we are trying to defend our homeland, our heartland, our language and our very way of life - one would hope that people would be motivated to vote (for UKIP) for this, if only out of respect for our ancestors who died in the war.
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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Gavin » 16 May 2013, 16:21

Under an article I recently referenced there is this summary:

General_Patten wrote:It begs the question - who votes Labour?

1) Public sector non-job "progressives"
2) Public sector Union workers
3) Welfare spongers
4) Immigrants
5) Most of Scotland (socialists)
6) Most of Wales (socialists)
7) Muslims.

Add to this the disgusting Northern "Rotten Boroughs" and Labour will win a 50 seat majority on 28-30%!!


This seems to me an accurate summary, and again it's about numbers - bringing us back to the issue of democracy. If corruption benefits a majority (before economic collapse), that's a problem.

Maybe we just have to wait for the collapse - actually it seems to be underway around Europe already. We just really need enough people to lose confidence in the Tories and come over to the Conservative Party (UKIP) before 2015, for there to be hope now.
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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Gavin » 19 May 2014, 17:24

You know how Mr Clegg likes to portray himself as a "man of the people", Mr "Never had a proper job" Miliband likes to do the same, and "Cast Iron/Call Me" Dave is keen to dumb down wherever he thinks it might garner votes... well, over at Breitbart...

chris_xxxx wrote:Clegg, Milliband and Cameron live far away from any Romanian immigrants.

Ed Miliband, who lives in a £2.3 million pound house in north London, with a £400,000 mortgage. "It’s in Dartmouth Park, a leafy corner of north London that’s a favourite with Labour’s current ruling class — nice schools, a low crime rate and not too many poor people. Add to that a house in Doncaster, his £139,000 salary and his wife’s reported income of £200,000 at the Bar, and life is pretty rosy for the Labour leader."

David Cameron has a £2.7 million house in Notting Hill, which he is renting out for £72,000 a year. He also owns a £1.4 million house near Spelsbury, Oxfordshire. Before becoming PM, Samantha Cameron was creative director of Smythson of Bond Street, earning around £400,000 a year.

Nick Clegg owns a £1.5 million town house in fashionable Putney, and has access to his mother's £7million, luxury 20-room mountain chalet near the exclusive Swiss resort of Klosters, or his father’s ten-bedroom chateau near Bordeaux, in France. While Mr Clegg’s £134,565 salary sounds more than comfortable to most mere mortals, it is dwarfed by his Spanish-born wife’s estimated £600,000 a year income as a commercial lawyer at the major US law firm Dechert.


Like EU "elite", these people simply have no idea how ordinary people have to live, under the conditions they have imposed on them with their unmandated project of mass unskilled third world immigration. n.b. I gather that Breitbart is a conservative site, unlike the DT or the Mail these days.
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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Gavin » 23 May 2014, 14:19

I hope this general election will turn out to be a war between UKIP and Labour and of course that UKIP are victorious. It may be too soon to hope for that though.

Nonetheless, I believe it is vital that the UKIP vote is not split at this point. They will need every vote to stand a chance of beating Labour, who are depending on their smuggled in mass immigration votes and their welfare vote base, combined with the vote of the out-of-touch metropolitan elite.

All ordinary working people must therefore vote UKIP, unless the party betrays its roots as LibLabCon defect to it, in which case (if there is a sea change) people would need to vote further to the right. As it stands, UKIP all the way if we are to have a chance of saving Britain within a closing demographic window of opportunity.
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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Nathan » 23 May 2014, 18:59

I was surprised how close the Conservatives were to Labour in the elections yesterday, all things considered. I think a Labour win next year is by no means secured.

Good old Nigel upped the ante earlier on by saying he'll stand as an MP next time round. I only hope they know what they're doing and the gamble pays off.
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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Elliott » 24 May 2014, 00:49

I think it's shaping up to be that way, Gavin: a battle between UKIP and Labour. Let's hope so. The game would be simpler with the Conservatives and LibDems "disqualified" as it were.

However we shouldn't be too optimistic. The local election results haven't been as inspiring as I had hoped. It might be the era of four-party politics, but UKIP are still the least popular of the four.
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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Nathan » 23 Sep 2014, 08:10

I find this fascinating news: SNP membership up 40% since referendum. We're talking about more than 15,000 new members out of a country of only five million!

Presumably these are largely old Labour voters who got bitten by the Yes bug and now don't want to go back to a party that campaigned for No. I wonder how many seats in Scotland Labour could lose as a result of this, particularly in Yes heartlands like Glasgow - any thoughts Elliott?

The more Labour insist that English affairs should be decided by non-English people has to lose them as least some of their core vote down here as well. How is anybody going to win a majority in this election?!
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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Elliott » 23 Sep 2014, 20:10

It's impossible for me to say, Nathan. I just can't get a grip on anything these days! Things are changing fast, and becoming very muddy and complicated. The only thing I would say is that it does look as if Labour are losing support both in Scotland and England - and that, of course, is wonderful.
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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Nathan » 09 Jan 2015, 17:55

A good article here in the Spectator about how nobody will truly win the 2015 election.

Incidentally, it's a shame that with the new fixed-term parliaments the election campaigns are now going to last from January through to May. The four or six weeks that it used to be were enough for me.
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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Charlie » 05 May 2015, 06:57

Ed West makes some excellent points about the Labour Party.
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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Gavin » 07 May 2015, 18:55

Any predictions? Everyone knows no-one knows, but I would gamble with:

  • UKIP doing well but not as well as Nigel might have hoped (I voted UKIP)
  • Labour doing well
  • Lib Dems facing wipe-out such that they are no longer statistically significant
  • Conservatives doing better than Labour
  • SNP doing very well in Scotland

I also expect another fiasco in Muslim constituencies such as Tower Hamlets, though of course they will vote Labour.

As for who will be “kingmaker”, hung parliaments and coalitions, I’m not sure about that. Actually I am going to read up more on the technicalities.

I don’t pay the BBC for a license so will be watching some TV at a neighbour’s later although it seems matters will not become clear until perhaps 4am.

I voted UKIP because I think they are the only party apart from the Greens that are one of principle, I don't trust LibLabCon, and UKIP's manifesto most closely matches what I think needs to be done in Britain. So I voted on principle, not tactically.

As for this "letting Miliband in", I accept this on the grounds that I think this would just hasten decline whereas with the Tories it will happen more slowly but happen anyway. Only UKIP or a party like them would reclaim the UK for us.

Seems from a recent article that TD has voted Tory, though he's not impressed with Mr Miliband or Mr Cameron either, seeing them as "non-entities".
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Re: The 2015 UK General Election

Postby Charlie » 08 May 2015, 10:01

I can’t deny that I’ve been mildly amused by all the New-lefty whining and virtue-signalling on social media this morning.

Even if one concedes that the champagne socialist/prog/equalism (call them what you will) set have some legitimate complaints, the New-left still seem totally unable to recognise their own incredible snobbishness and selfishness, and, just to give you an idea of what I’ve seen this morning, they post twaddle like the following:

Perhaps the worst thing - aside from the death of the NHS as we know it; the pandering to anti-immigration and anti-European lunatics; the savage looming cuts to education, pensions, transport, social welfare; and any remaining semblance that this country prides itself on tolerance and decency - the absolute worst thing - is that we've told a new generation of privileged Etonian Bullingdon Club members that they know best, and that we are happy to be ruled by them. What exactly just happened?


Would it surprise you to learn that the person who wrote the above post, which I saw on Faceborg, works at a university?

I thought not.
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